Getting worse and don't know what to do

Hello,
I am still in a lot of pain and distress after a little over a month of MMS protocols and I would love some help if anyone has some input or ideas.I began using MMS on the first of Feb because I strongly believe I have Lyme disease. (I've had 2 antibody tests done that were negative, but I have also been under therapies prior to testing.) I began having severe back and hip pain about 6-7 yrs ago. As a chiropractor, I applied every treatment and modality that was available from colleagues, and early on I was told by Western Medicine allopath’s that it’s “just” arthritis, and steroids is the default treatment.
But due to the nature and severity of the pain, how it ‘invades’ my muscles and tissues, and it moves and changes a lot, I know there is something more invasive than just arthritis.I went very heavy into nutritional/functional approaches mostly geared toward degeneration and muscle tension and muscle pain. Then I was introduced to Rife frequency machines and got a BCX ultra that I have been using religiously for years. Overall, there have been changes, or temporary relief at time, but I’m still in pain all the time and although I know I have degeneration, this is NOT just arthritis pain.Then I was introduced to MMS and was anxious to start right away.
I began the start protocol on Feb 1st and went straight into the mold/fungus protocol 4 days later as the book described.
I wasn’t seeing much change in anything, and I didn’t have much suspicion of fungus/mold, so I discontinued the mold protocol after 10 days, and I continued on with protocol 1000 and easily got up to 3 drops of MMS.
I continued on with just MMS for a little over a week, then added DMSO at 9 drops with the 3 drops of MMS. I have done the DMSO for a little over a week, but I didn’t experience any change and in fact, I have been feeling more sick most all the time on top of all the pain. So starting today, I’m just doing MMS at 2 drops.I have been optimistic about the potential of MMS finally helping, but ultimately, I still have very bad back ache and the muscles/tissues around my hip and into my legs just aches and stays tight all the time and I’m feeling worse gut-wise overall. It also worsens or gets less intense randomly and moves around and when worse, there’s much more ache that occurs from low back down to my knees. Sleep doesn’t help and in fact, it’s more disturbing than restful.I am in miserable pain and semi-sick feeling almost all the time. I don’t know what to do… Back off?, but that doesn’t seem like it’s going to help. If I go full on to protocol 2000, I’m afraid I’ll feel even worse.I’m desperate and would love any input or advise, PLEASE!!Thank you! --Jeff

Sorry to hear about your pain... I think you are doing it right. Reduce the dose but don't quit. This may be a long term fix not a quick fix.

jeffsmms wrote:

Hello,
I am still in a lot of pain and distress after a little over a month of MMS protocols and I would love some help if anyone has some input or ideas.I began using MMS on the first of Feb because I strongly believe I have Lyme disease. (I've had 2 antibody tests done that were negative, but I have also been under therapies prior to testing.) I began having severe back and hip pain about 6-7 yrs ago. As a chiropractor, I applied every treatment and modality that was available from colleagues, and early on I was told by Western Medicine allopath’s that it’s “just” arthritis, and steroids is the default treatment.
But due to the nature and severity of the pain, how it ‘invades’ my muscles and tissues, and it moves and changes a lot, I know there is something more invasive than just arthritis.I went very heavy into nutritional/functional approaches mostly geared toward degeneration and muscle tension and muscle pain. Then I was introduced to Rife frequency machines and got a BCX ultra that I have been using religiously for years. Overall, there have been changes, or temporary relief at time, but I’m still in pain all the time and although I know I have degeneration, this is NOT just arthritis pain.Then I was introduced to MMS and was anxious to start right away.
I began the start protocol on Feb 1st and went straight into the mold/fungus protocol 4 days later as the book described.
I wasn’t seeing much change in anything, and I didn’t have much suspicion of fungus/mold, so I discontinued the mold protocol after 10 days, and I continued on with protocol 1000 and easily got up to 3 drops of MMS.
I continued on with just MMS for a little over a week, then added DMSO at 9 drops with the 3 drops of MMS. I have done the DMSO for a little over a week, but I didn’t experience any change and in fact, I have been feeling more sick most all the time on top of all the pain. So starting today, I’m just doing MMS at 2 drops.I have been optimistic about the potential of MMS finally helping, but ultimately, I still have very bad back ache and the muscles/tissues around my hip and into my legs just aches and stays tight all the time and I’m feeling worse gut-wise overall. It also worsens or gets less intense randomly and moves around and when worse, there’s much more ache that occurs from low back down to my knees. Sleep doesn’t help and in fact, it’s more disturbing than restful.I am in miserable pain and semi-sick feeling almost all the time. I don’t know what to do… Back off?, but that doesn’t seem like it’s going to help. If I go full on to protocol 2000, I’m afraid I’ll feel even worse.I’m desperate and would love any input or advise, PLEASE!!Thank you! --Jeff

I have asked a friend to read your post and offer suggestions.

Will post her comments here when I get them. 

One question I have is are you taking any strong antioxidants such as coffee or tea before or during CLO2 dosing hours? 

Here is the response from my friend: 

"I think I would try ingesting DMSO internally (if I wasn’t on critical meds) or applying external DMSO.

For internal use of DMSO, I would start with 1 drop of 99.9% pharma grade DMSO per day and work my way up by adding an additional drop each day. I would take this on an empty stomach in a glass of purified or distilled water.

For external use, I would start with a dilution of 20% in distilled water. I would gradually try to work my way up to a 50% dilution in distilled water. I would make sure my skin was very clean before applying any DMSO since it’s a carrier and a solvent. I would start with spraying the painful areas. I would let the DMSO sit on my skin for 15 to 20 minutes, and then rinse it off in the shower.

I would try either of the DMSO routes of application for two weeks and see if anything improved.

I would also consider getting a D3 blood test, and if low, supplementing with vitamin D3 and K2 (MK-7) and the other companion nutrients (magnesium, zinc (picolinate is a great form), boron, vitamin A). A vitamin D3 deficiency can cause fibromyalgia/arthritis type aches and pains. Vitamin D3 without K2 can encourage soft tissue calcification and arthritis, which can both cause aches and pains.

Either of these above can be taken with a chlorine dioxide protocol." 

Also, double check what you are eating and when you are eating. Make sure you are not taking something that is counteracting the MMS.

I don't have a serious disease like you have, but I am getting tremendous results with just the protocol 1000.

Hello Jeff, So sorry to hear about the pain you are experiencing. In addition to some of the replies you have already received on this post, if it were me, I would consider the following:

First, carefully read over Chapter 8 --Reality Check, in Jim Humble's MMS Health Recovery Guidebook. This Chapter deals with a number reasons why MMS may not seem to be working.

Second, if you are still drinking caffeinated drinks, or alcohol even though separating them out from your dosing times, in your case, you might want to consider eliminating these all together from your diet for a time.

Third, you might want to consider if your detox pathways are clogged for some reason and this may be hindering the detoxification process. In short consider your lymphatic system and possibly take steps to help lymphatic drainage. Many undiagnosed illnesses some experts are admitting now, can be traced back to the lymphathic system.

In my opinion a good resource to learn about this is Dr. Perry Nickelston. He has many videos and interviews on Youtube, and you can get more thorough input from him there—or go to his website which is: stopchasingpain.com

To get started, Dr. Perry explains a simple routine, which he calls the Big 6, that only takes 5 minutes or so to do daily, yet it's very effective if done consistently) here is a link to his explanation:


Or for an extension to this, he has the Big 6 and Morning Flow routine (this adds on a few more moves in addition to the Big 6—the link is:


All in all though in regards to MMS, if it were me, I would say keep it up, you may have to cut down some but don't quit. Hope this helps. All the best. Charly