- Posts: 3
- Thank you received: 1
Best storage bottles for 4% HCL
- dieseldude
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- New Member
-
I just joined and this is my first attempt at producing a DIY product. I recently bought a quart of 37% which arrived in a plastic bottle with 2 clear bags tywrapped around it. I've yet to disturb it but apparently it is gassing off as there's condensation now in the bags. So I need to get the ball rolling and I guess the best thing to do is just dilute the entire quart. I didn't realize the rather large quantity I'd end up with at first. But we intend to use it for bathing, etc so perhaps it won't go to waste. I'm assuming that storage becomes considerably easier once diluted to 4%. So I'm looking at a final volume of around 2 gallons to bottle up.
I believe I have a case of flip top 16oz beer bottles stashed from the home brewing days. They have the usual porcelain tops with red rubber seals. So I'm wondering if a source exist for replacement Viton seals. I did some research and that's about the only rubber rated for HCL. My question is will the 4% damage the existing red rubber seals over say a year storage? Are there any common bottles that are known to be stable storing this?
Many thanks in advance,
DD
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- CLO2
-
- Offline
- Administrator
-
My favorite HCL concentration is 0%. HCL is very dangerous to handle at high concentrations. Even if you double or triple enclose it, HCL will escape and damage anything metallic, including stainless steel, that is nearby.Greetings,
I just joined and this is my first attempt at producing a DIY product. I recently bought a quart of 37% which arrived in a plastic bottle with 2 clear bags tywrapped around it. I've yet to disturb it but apparently it is gassing off as there's condensation now in the bags. So I need to get the ball rolling and I guess the best thing to do is just dilute the entire quart. I didn't realize the rather large quantity I'd end up with at first. But we intend to use it for bathing, etc so perhaps it won't go to waste. I'm assuming that storage becomes considerably easier once diluted to 4%. So I'm looking at a final volume of around 2 gallons to bottle up.
I believe I have a case of flip top 16oz beer bottles stashed from the home brewing days. They have the usual porcelain tops with red rubber seals. So I'm wondering if a source exist for replacement Viton seals. I did some research and that's about the only rubber rated for HCL. My question is will the 4% damage the existing red rubber seals over say a year storage? Are there any common bottles that are known to be stable storing this?
Many thanks in advance,
DD
The only HCL I now keep is a 4% 2 fl oz bottle in a fridge, as I no longer use HCL.
HCL 4% will last about 3 years, then loses potency.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- stu77000
-
- Offline
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 585
- Thank you received: 434
The main issue is that hydrochloric acid fumes eat away at most rubbers and metals. Even at 4%, your beer bottle seals won’t hold up for long. Better to get HDPE chemical bottles (the white plastic type) they’re what manufacturers use for storage, and they’ll save you trouble in the long run.
Great. You mean I should have just left it in their original plastic bottles and not transferred it to glass bottles....
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- CLO2
-
- Offline
- Administrator
-
HCL will dissolve the silicone ring seal on those glass beer bottles. There is an answer for which bottle to use, that is not made from plastic. This bottle is all glass including the stopper (cap). They also work for making CDS, but you may need to polish the glass stopper-to-bottle "joint".
The main issue is that hydrochloric acid fumes eat away at most rubbers and metals. Even at 4%, your beer bottle seals won’t hold up for long. Better to get HDPE chemical bottles (the white plastic type) they’re what manufacturers use for storage, and they’ll save you trouble in the long run.
Great. You mean I should have just left it in their original plastic bottles and not transferred it to glass bottles....
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- dieseldude
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- New Member
-
- Posts: 3
- Thank you received: 1
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- CLO2
-
- Offline
- Administrator
-
Thanks for the data! I've been keeping it in a brown glass 2oz dropper bottle. So far it has eaten up 4 dropper top assemblies. Lucky I bought 20 bottles so I just keep a close eye on it. And replace the top before it ends up with black particles in the solution. I would suggest to not use a dropper cap. Instead, use a regular bottle cap and then use a LDPE pipette to dispense 4% HCL. Rinse the pipette twice with clean water so it can be used with other chemicals. That is what I do and works fine.
The first time that did occur before I realized the situation. But all is good and it works wonders. Since I limit ingesting so far, I think I'll just switch to citric when this runs out. Frankly both me and my beautiful pooch would of already expired without it. It has cured some major oral issues I had by simply swishing, brushing, and the occasional light water pik treatment. In my case it took the water pik to access the deep root of the issue. For the first time in decades my headaches are subsiding and actual healing is noticably occurring. I expect over time now that my hearing will also improve. Earlier this week the same bloom happened orally with my dog which became a instant emergency. It corrected that with simple application to his teeth and jowls with a small horse hair paint brush. After 2d of brief treatments every 8h you can't even detect the smell any longer. Miracle is a understatement...Many thanks to all.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Jim's Blog
-
More is Not Always Better
Published on: June 9, 2026
In my books, there are times when one might need to take larger doses of MMS/CD. In Protocol 2000, for example you’ll find maximum dosage amounts. Some might take this to mean the more MMS one takes the better. But this is NOT necessarily so! More is not necessarily better, you need to listen to …
-
Nutritional Research Information
Published on: May 27, 2026
Note: The following was written by Jim around 2012, and we are putting it here as food for thought. The subject of “nutrition” in the world today, is quite subjective, with a wide range of factors weighing into this equation, such as how the food is grown, handled, stored, processed, etc. etc. In addition, we …
-
Believing Lies
Published on: May 18, 2026
It is extremely important to always realize that in terms of living and surviving in this universe it is wrong to believe lies. Believing lies can result in failure or even death. Keep in mind that most all children are taught that it is OK to believe lies. That is the result of Santa Claus, …
-
Longevity Tip: Take a Nap!
Published on: May 11, 2026
Eighty five percent of mammals, that is animals, take naps during the day. It is not really apparent if humans were meant to take naps or not, but children certainly take naps naturally. I personally have taken from 20 to 45 minute daily naps during my entire life. They keep one fresh. People often worry …
-
Two Main Keys to Success with MMS/CD
Published on: May 3, 2026
You might think there are too many details to pay attention to when doing a MMS/CD protocol. Well, I’m not gonna lie to you, there are some details involved. But let me tell you two key points if you want to get well using MMS/CD. These points are of utmost importance and these two points, …
-
More on HCl (Stomach Acid)
Published on: April 20, 2026
Dilute HCl can be used as an aid to MMS/CD. Eighty years ago, back in the 1920’s and 30’s thousands of people were healed by a few doctors of many diseases including cancer. Eventually they were stopped, but there was one doctor who worked in the jungles of Mexico who had years and years of …